Justin

Very many thanks for this email.  I have done the necessary tweak to the send.pm file and can confirm that it works a treat.

Very many thanks for your persistence on this problem.

Keep up the very good work.

Best regards
--
Martyn Davison




> Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 01:46:26 -0400
> From: justin@PROTECTED
> To: martyndavison@PROTECTED
> Subject: [dadadev] Re: Change Reply-To email address
>
>
> OK - I can def. confirm that if you add a value to the Reply-To key, it does nothing. That's a bug.
>
> I've been able to make it work, by simply finding this line in the, dada/DADA/Mail/Send.pm file:
>
> (around line 2139)
>
> $gh{'Reply-To'} = $From_obj->format;
>
> And just commenting it out.
>
> What this line will do is create a default Reply-To header out of value in the From: header. This will happen before Dada Mail picks up any defaults in your config - thus, the Reply-To default header is never used.
>
> --
>
> Justin J: Lead Dadaist.
> url: http://dadamailproject.com
> email: justin@PROTECTED
> phone: 720.341.4963
>
> On Sep 3, 2010, at 11:28 AM, Martyn Davison wrote:
>
> > Justin
> >
> > Many thanks for the reply. I will make the changes that you suggested. I will also add the problem to the tracker, also as you suggest.
> >
> > I understand where you are coming from regarding your comment "why would you want to send a message out to a bunch of people, but not *want* them to communicate back?".
> >
> > The thing is that we are not using Dada as a normal mailing system per se where people ask to be added to the mailing list. It is a closed system with the email addresses being supplied by the membership secretary on a regular basis. The purpose of the list is to let members of our organisation know about some upcoming event, or something that they need to do to, or some thing like " a trip has been organised and there are spare seats - get in touch with the person listed in the email". Anyone who wants to send an email to the members sends an email to the central email person who then sends it to the whole group currently at around 550 addresses.
> >
> > So the message says get in touch with the person indicated on the email. But they just click on the reply to button. I have set up an email address for the no-reply address which indicates that they need to contact the contact person in the email directly and not any other way. There have been occasioins where someone has missed a place because they did not contact the 'originator' directly.
> >
> > The message does indicate the email address from which the emails are sent and they can contact someone via that route if they are having a problem.
> >
> > Many thanks for all your efforts. Dada is still the easiest email system to use and I look forward to using it in a more 'traditional' way - I just have to persuade the powers that be that it is a good idea and that it will save them quite a lot of expense without the pain!
> >
> > Best regards
> > --
> > Martyn Davison
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2010 13:56:38 -0400
> > > From: justin@PROTECTED
> > > To: martyndavison@PROTECTED
> > > Subject: [dadadev] Re: Change Reply-To email address
> > >
> > >
> > > On Aug 31, 2010, at 4:18 PM, Martyn Davison wrote:
> > > > In line 4049 (approx?) the entry "add_reply_to => 1," appears - I am presuming that the digit 1 indicates that the field is to be included in the email header.
> > >
> > > No. Here's the line you're looking for, with a few lines around it:
> > >
> > >
> > > # Dada Bridge Plugin:
> > >
> > > group_list => 0,
> > >
> > > open_discussion_list => 0,
> > >
> > >
> > > discussion_template_defang => 1,
> > > only_allow_group_plain_text => 0,
> > > add_reply_to => 1, # here's your line
> > > mail_group_message_to_poster => 1,
> > > append_list_name_to_subject => 1,
> > >
> > > You're looking inside the %LIST_SETUP_DEFAULTS hash, in the group of key/value pairs that deal with Dada Bridge. That key/value maps to the Dad Mail-specific setting in Dada Bridge:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [ ] Automatically have replies to messages directed to the group
> > > A 'Reply-To' header will be added to group list mailings that will direct
> > > replies to list messages back to the list address (some.email@PROTECTED).
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > Failing that, where abouts in the scripts can I hard code the address so that the required address gets included rather than the default one?
> > >
> > >
> > > Try this - I haven't tested it. In DADA/App/MassSend.pm find this line:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > $message_id = $mh->mass_send(
> > > {
> > > -msg => {%mailing},
> > > -partial_sending => $partial_sending,
> > > -multi_list_send => {
> > > -lists => [@alternative_list],
> > > -no_dupes => $multi_list_send_no_dupes,
> > > },
> > > -also_send_to => [@alternative_list],
> > > ($process =~ m/test/i) ? (-mass_test => 1, -test_recipient => $og_test_recipient,) : (-mass_test => 0,)
> > >
> > > }
> > > );
> > >
> > >
> > > And just append that %mailing hash, like this:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > $message_id = $mh->mass_send(
> > > {
> > > -msg => {
> > > %mailing,
> > > 'Reply-To' => 'somewhere.else@PROTECTED',
> > >
> > > },
> > > -partial_sending => $partial_sending,
> > > -multi_list_send => {
> > > -lists => [@alternative_list],
> > > -no_dupes => $multi_list_send_no_dupes,
> > > },
> > > -also_send_to => [@alternative_list],
> > > ($process =~ m/test/i) ? (-mass_test => 1, -test_recipient => $og_test_recipient,) : (-mass_test => 0,)
> > >
> > > }
> > > );
> > >
> > >
> > > That'll change things for your Mass Mailing -> Send a Message screen.
> > >
> > > > As an aside, adjacent to the Reply-To information in the config.pm file ther is unsubscription the return path field. Placing a value in here in place of the undef value results in the specified email address getting included.
> > >
> > > Yeah, don't do that. Return-Paths usually shouldn't be set directly, but rather by the MTA itself.
> > >
> > > > This problem is becoming quite an issue because, even though a line is included in the mailings which says "don't click on the reply to button on the email programme", a not insignificant number of people are ignoring this.
> > >
> > > That's the thing - why would you want to send a message out to a bunch of people, but not *want* them to communicate back? To me, that's almost akin to breaking the stuff in Dada Mail, since you think you'd do a better job with an outside system of your own. Doing so adds a whole new set of problems, ones that the program is then blamed for.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > If there is an issue, that setting a default Reply-To header doesn't work, could you please add it to the issue tracker?
> > >
> > > http://github.com/justingit/dada-mail/issues
> > >
> > > I'll then look at it. I never look at problems, unless they're in there. I need some help, because I can't do everything here myself. Please help. Everyone: if there's problems: add them to the issues tracker.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > Justin J: Lead Dadaist.
> > > url: http://dadamailproject.com
> > > email: justin@PROTECTED
> > > phone: 720.341.4963
> > >
> > > On Aug 31, 2010, at 4:18 PM, Martyn Davison wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi
> > > >
> > > > A while ago I enquired how to set the Reply-To field in the email header to something other than the default email address. I received a reply to that which indicated that in the config.pm file I should add the address in the 'Reply-To' entry (at around line 4364) in place of the undef value. I have done that.
> > > >
> > > > In line 4049 (approx?) the entry "add_reply_to => 1," appears - I am presuming that the digit 1 indicates that the field is to be included in the email header.
> > > >
> > > > I have now had chance to test this out and I have to report that the Reply-To field still contains the default email address.
> > > >
> > > > Is there some other place that this information is included as a variable - clearly the scripts are picking up the default address rather than the required address.
> > > >
> > > > Failing that, where abouts in the scripts can I hard code the address so that the required address gets included rather than the default one?
> > > >
> > > > As an aside, adjacent to the Reply-To information in the config.pm file ther is the return path field. Placing a value in here in place of the undef value results in the specified email address getting included.
> > > >
> > > > This problem is becoming quite an issue because, even though a line is included in the mailings which says "don't click on the reply to button on the email programme", a not insignificant number of people are ignoring this.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Best regards
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