I'm sorry I wasn't clear I want to maintain the closed-loop opt-out when someone visits the UI on the site, to protect my mailing list from tampering, but if they have their PIN in a link, then I want to trust it and do it in one click Unchecking that option allows literally anybody to remove email addresses

Alan

On Apr 2, 2010, at 3:02 AM, Justin J wrote:

On Apr 2, 2010, at 3:48 AM, Alan Hysinger wrote:

Hi, I'm totally new to the list, so if I am in need of a clue, just speak up I have no idea of any etiquette out here, and I am a very direct person

On topic is nice - the list is moderated by a couple of people, so it's usually not a problem Anyways:

I wanted to provide my users with a single-click unsubscribe option

All you have to do is this:

In your list control panel, go to:

Your Mailing List -> Mailing List Options

and uncheck the option:

  [ ] Send Unsubscription Confirmation Emails (Closed-Loop Opt-Out)

Save and Boom: you're done

There was a change in Dada Mail, after version 3 0 3:

http://dadamailproject com/support/documentation-4_0_4/changes_4_x pod html#subscription_and_unsubscription_links_now_include_an_email_address

That puts the email address in the unsub link - this guy:

So, when the user clicks on it, you'll get a one-click unsubscribe, just like you want (and it looks like, your subscribers want) In fact, I think that first option I told you to uncheck should also be unchecked, by default after 4 0 3, as well:

http://dadamailproject com/support/documentation-4_0_4/changes_4_x pod html#send_unsubscription_confirmation_emails__closed_loop_opt_out____disabled_by_default

So, actually, what you want, should be the new default Are you running the newest version of Dada Mail (or, have you upgraded, with lists with old settings?)

If you're running something lower than 4 0 3 and want the same effect w/the unsubscription link (email address present), you can just do this:

///

But don't do this after 4 0 3 - it'll look weird

-- Justin J

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On Apr 2, 2010, at 3:48 AM, Alan Hysinger wrote:

Hi, I'm totally new to the list, so if I am in need of a clue, just speak up I have no idea of any etiquette out here, and I am a very direct person

I wanted to provide my users with a single-click unsubscribe option I have received some emails from angry users who don't understand the multi-step unsubscribe process, or worse, the unsubscribe confirmation gets moved to their spam folder Additionally, almost all of these people are my customers, who after graciously spending money in my store and opting in, decide they want to opt out I really want that to be as easy as possible for them

I thought I was going to be able to implement a single-click unsubscribe simply by putting as the unsubscribe link in the mailing templates Unfortunately, it did not work because Dada checks to see if a confirmation was first requested, and issues this error:

Problems with Unsubscribing!

The unsubscription confirmation did not complete correctly This may be because: • You've attempted to unsubscribe to a list (even when using a valid pin), without first asking for a confirmation I found it easy to circumvent the check for a confirmation by commenting out this code in Subscriptions pm::unsub_confirm and the unsubscribe request successfully removed the subscriber from the list

# My last check - are they currently on the UNsubscription confirmation list?!

if($lh->check_for_double_email(-Email => $email,-Type => 'unsub_confirm_list') == 0){

$status = 0;

$errors->{not_on_unsub_confirm_list} = 1;

warn ' $errors->{not_on_unsub_confirm_list} set to 1'

if $t;

}

else {

 warn 'removing, ' 
 $email 
 ' from unsub_confirm_list'
     if $t; 
   my $rm_status = $lh->remove_subscriber(
     { 
         -email => $email, 
         -type  => 'unsub_confirm_list'
        }
 );    

}

Anyway, I was thinking it would be a good feature to have this configurable via the administrative UI, or perhaps in Config pm Obviously, I have a selfish motive: I don't want to patch every update to Dada, or worse, forget to patch an update If this feature is deemed acceptable, I am willing to put in some time coding some patches Not to get too far ahead of myself, but I would need some pointers at what perl files to look at for managing configuration options The code is beautifully clean, which enabled me to kludge in my feature in under 5 minutes, but the storage of config settings from the UI didn't jump out at me Putting the option in Config pm would be very simple, however I have some love for Dada and I wouldn't mind putting in the time to "do it up right"

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