Thank you I try not to be a crotchety old guy, but sometimes I have a lot of balls in the air and am always behind schedule so when I run into things I don't understand, I yell for help

Right behind stable on my wish list is super fast sending

I tried the $MASS_MAIL_SETTINGS = ">>/dev/null"; Then tried sending Dada opened the progress window, but, of course, nothing was being sent so I have no idea what the speed rate is Sorry, but that's above my pay grade I didn't know where else to look Didn't see anything relevant in the log

Tried smtp once before and found it no faster, but surely will try again Tried testing the settings today and it works fine with sasl I don't have another mailer to do for a few days so I can't do a real world test right now

I don't use the subscriber fields and still get occasional 500 server errors using the mailing monitor, so I have set it to not check every 10 secs I just let it run without the monitor and then click it on to check progress once in a while, therefore 3 0 is not all that important

Then for the increased speed, going back to 2 10 16 might be a better choice, but I do hate to lose the archives from the last couple of months Plus I seriously want to continue using the sql backend--at first test that didn't work I got errors referencing the config file asking for actual file names for the database, etc The config file was set up for v3 Didn't use it for 2 x

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Thanks again John

At 5:50 PM -0500 11/30/08, Justin J wrote:

It is S-L-O-W!

It's sending at the rate of under 1800 per hour With 18,000 to send it will take over ten hours This is not workable I cannot send a second msg in the same day

Reference: Dada 3 01pro External config MySQL backend I have tried it with the batch sending set to 180 with a one second pause or to not have it set to send in batches or with any pauses No difference

Wha' happened?

First and foremost, I don't make Dada Mail to go as fast as possible I don't do that because the bottle neck is never Dada Mail, it's the actually mailing part - where you send the message off to your mail server You're 1800 messages an hour is about 2 messages/second That's probably on ball with how fast the mail server can take messages I'm not at all worried about that

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You can test my theory by, instead of sending a message to your mail server, using the sendmail command, instead send it to, just a file that gets appended Change the config variable $MASS_MAIL_SETTINGS from what it probably is set to:

$MASS_MAIL_SETTINGS = "|$MAILPROG -t";

to something like this:

$MASS_MAIL_SETTINGS = ">>/dev/null";

Send a message out (nothing will actually get sent out) and tell me how fast messages are going out If it's more like 18,000 messages/hour, instead of 1800 messages an hour - guess what? It's not Dada Mail, it's the sendmail command taking 2 seconds a messages - and that's it

Make sure to change back this variable, when you really want to send out a message

If it's sendmail taking so long - there's not much I can do You can try this:

http://www dadamailproject com/support/boards/viewtopic php?f=18&t=515

which means switching to SMTP sending That's all I got for you

I know, John, you like to report sending speed problems, but a lot of your reports are without much evidence - error logs and the like and you then don't like trying out a lot of the changes I make This report, for example, is basically the same report you gave a few months ago My answer is pretty similar, as well If you're asking me to jump, I'm going to tell you, "I'm jumping" and not, "how high" - there's nothing I can do, internally, in Dada Mail to speed up sending

I don't want it to be a, "He said, she said" thing with Westhost, where they say they haven't changed anything on their side, so it must be on Dada Mail's side - it gets us nowhere Are there major, huge, ginormous changes in Dada Mail 3, when compared to 2? Yes A lot Can I go back to how 2 worked? I can't, unless you want to get ride of all the subscriber fields stuff and all the mailing monitor stuff in 3 If those aren't important to you - use 2 x Especially with this version - which is just an incremental bug fix version of Dada Mail to be as compatible with 3 0 as possible, I don't have much leeway to make huge changes to the architecture within Dada Mail

I guess a question, I would love to ask is, "What is it, that you all - everyone, would like me to do?", when it comes to the issue of mail sending? No one has any ideas, really I ask for comments on what major feature you all - everyone, wants and no one said, "I want mail sending super fast!" It was even on the list of things, in the form of what's called, "Envelope Sending", but not many people said, "hey, that's a great idea"

A lot of my concentration, in Dada Mail, is not with sending super fast - a lot of my concentration has been around getting the people who have limits of sending at only 500 messages an hour realistically working, thus the whole sending monitor stuff - which is a very complex bit of code - almost too complex But it's not so complex as to add 2 seconds of overhead per message That's just silly,