Re: Strange Bouncing on the List

 
From: "Carl G. Kuczun" <ckuczun@PROTECTED>
Date: October 16th 2008
Hi Justin,
 
This is minor on your list of projects, but a common item of confusion for my new email managers is on the main "Send a List Message" page menu on the left side.  The very first entry "Send a List Message" looks like a section title because it is left justified and not bulleted, whereas the other send options are indented and bulleted.  (See below for example)  It would be clearer if the section had a black title of "Send a List Message" and the first option would be the bulleted "Send a Text Email".
 
Carl K.
 
Currently:
 
Send a List Message
  • Send a Webpage
  • Monitor Your Mailings 0/0
  •  
    Proposed:
     
    Send a List Message
  • Send a Text Email 
  • Send a Webpage
  • Monitor Your Mailings 0/0
  •  
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Justin J" <justin@PROTECTED>
    To: "Dada Mail Developers Subscriber" <ckuczun@PROTECTED>
    Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 4:01 PM
    Subject: [dadadev] Strange Bouncing on the List

    >
    > Hey everyone,
    >
    > A few people have let me know they've been subscribed because of 
    > bouncing messages, but everyone says that they couldn't possibly have 
    > been bouncing messages - since they've been receiving them.
    >
    > And I'm scoobied as to why this is all happening, which isn't good :)
    >
    > And this scenario is something I'm sure a lot of people go through, 
    > while administrating a list, so we might as well figure out a good way 
    > to deal with it.
    >
    > Since I'm sneaky, I thought, "Aha! I'll look at the logs and see if 
    > they say something!"
    >
    > So, I did and the bounce log is really generic, an entry from someone 
    > who's bouncing looks like this:
    >
    > [Tue Oct  7 00:00:03 2008] dadadev add_to_score 4
    user@PROTECTED
    > Simplified-Message-Id:  20081006234502, Message-Id:  <
    20081006234502.30916943@PROTECTED
    > >
    > , Status: 5.x.y, Guessed_MTA: Exim, std_reason: unknown,
    >
    > Which... tells... me... nothing!
    >
    > And what I really want to see is the original bouncing message, just 
    > to at least grok it, and well, I don't have it.
    >
    > So, the first change I may make is an easier way to save those messages.
    >
    >
    > Does anyone else have any ideas? We can't be the only people who have 
    > had subscribers unsubscribed because of bounced messages, and then, 
    > have trouble as to what/why the bounces are happening,
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > Also, yesterday, I opened up about 5 extra bugs:
    >
    > 3.0.0 - DADA::App::POP3Tools _lock_pop3_check error
    >
    https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=2167322&group_id=13002&atid=113002
    >
    > 3.0.0 - POP-before-SMTP test never uses Mode or SSL prefs
    >
    https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=2167227&group_id=13002&atid=113002
    >
    > 3.0.0 - SMTP Options POP-before-SMTP Auth Mode option brokeb
    >
    https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=2167224&group_id=13002&atid=113002
    >
    >
    https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=2167176&group_id=13002&atid=113002
    >  2167176    3.0.0 - SMTP Options POP-before-SMTP SSL option broken
    >
    > 3.0.0 - Limited Docs for DADA::MailingList::Settings
    >
    https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=2167007&group_id=13002&atid=113002
    >
    > A lot of them deal with the, "POP-before-SMTP" authentication stuff 
    > and testing it - anything that's a little advanced with setting that 
    > customization up seems to give false positives. Which stinks.
    >
    > There's also a problem with the semaphore file that keeps you from 
    > clobbering the POP3 server and that last bug is about missing docs.
    >
    > Fun!
    >
    > Never be timid about filing a bug report. If, while using Dada you 
    > come across something strange - file a bug. It's not hard to remove 
    > bogus ones, so the more the merrier,
    >
    > --
    > Justin J.
    >
    > Dada Mail -  Write Once: Distribute Everywhere Software
    > url:
    http://dadamailproject.com
    >
    > Demo:
    >
    http://demo.dadamailproject.com
    >
    > Seen Dada Mail 3?
    >
    http://dadamailproject.com/features/3_0/
    >
    >
    >
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