Re: Scheduled Mailings Failure Update

 
From: "John Collins" <john@PROTECTED>
Date: May 8th 2007
At 10:26 PM -0600 5/7/07, Dada Mail \(Justin Simoni\) wrote:
On May 7, 2007, at 7:38 PM, John Collins wrote:
However, it does not pick up sample mailings I have saved in beatude.
I set up a couple more of them but they did not send.

In the Beatitude control panel, make sure that the scheduled mailing is active. If it's passed it's expected time of sending, it probably will deactivate itself.

One that was set up as active, but the time had passed, simply disappeared, but I did not get the test email.

Tried a couple more tests with the time set after the current time (server), but still did not get the messages.
Forget it.  Not worth more effort.

Thanks for all the good info, though.  I learned about setting crons.  See below.

(FWIW I can get at the cron text file on the server at:
/var/spool/cron/meetingsandmixers
and simply edit the text file.  It's faster)


Did set up a cronjob for Mystery Girl, while I was at it, and that seems like it worked.  No bounces in it right now to test.
Worthy of note is that with a list of about 25k, MG needs to run about a dozen times to clear them all out after sending.  Once doesn't do it.

By default, Mystery Girl will look at 100 messages, and then quit. If you have more than 100 messages awaiting it, it will take a few times to run the script to handle all of the bounces.

When I clear them manually, I usually select 500-600 to process and then need to run it about 10 times for them to all clear out.

So I changed the default to 500

And since it needs to run about a dozen times to clear them all, I set up the cron:
0,15,30,45  1,2,3   *   *  * /home/meetingsandmixers/www/cgi-bin/dada/plugins/dada_bounce_handler.pl >/dev/null 2>&1
To hit it 12 times a night at 15 minute intervals.

Sending a newsletter this morning.  Tomorrow we'll see if it worked.

Thanks again.



So I guess I should set the cronjob for it to run every 15 minutes for about 3 hours every night in the middle of the night?
My newsletters are erratic in schedule.  Sometimes 3 a week, sometimes 3 weeks between, but no harm in letting it run every night is there:

That should be fine.
Where can I learn how to set up the cron for that schedule?

In the fine manual:


Saw that, but didn't understand Cron settings.  No problem, found them on the web.

Worthy of mention is the first page related to Beatude in the Magic Book does not mention cron at all.



http://mojo.skazat.com/support/documentation/dada_bounce_handler.pl.html#setting_the_schedule

(mirror)
http://mojomail.sourceforge.net/support/documentation/dada_bounce_handler.pl.html#setting_the_schedule

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Justin Simoni

Dada Mail -  Write Once: Distribute Everywhere Software
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On May 7, 2007, at 7:38 PM, John Collins wrote:

Fixing the perl libs did it. Looks like at least it sees it now:

[meetingsandmixers][~]$ /home/meetingsandmixers/www/cgi-bin/dada/plugins/scheduled_mailings.pl --run --verbose

------------------------------------------------------------------------
Running Schedule For: MNM
Current time is: May 7th 2007 - 3:58 p.m.
    No schedules to run.

However, it does not pick up sample mailings I have saved in beatude.
I set up a couple more of them but they did not send.

Never mind.  I needed it for tomorrow morning and am not going to count on it at this late date, nor am I going to mess with it any more right now.  I arranged with the client to send it manually at a time when I'll be here.

Did set up a cronjob for Mystery Girl, while I was at it, and that seems like it worked.  No bounces in it right now to test.
Worthy of note is that with a list of about 25k, MG needs to run about a dozen times to clear them all out after sending.  Once doesn't do it.
So I guess I should set the cronjob for it to run every 15 minutes for about 3 hours every night in the middle of the night?
My newsletters are erratic in schedule.  Sometimes 3 a week, sometimes 3 weeks between, but no harm in letting it run every night is there:
Where can I learn how to set up the cron for that schedule?

Thanks for all your help on this.  I learned a lot, even though I didn't get it set to handle my email broadcast.

J


At 3:09 PM -0600 5/7/07, Dada Mail \(Justin Simoni\) wrote:
You have to explicitly change the path to the perl libraries and the Dada Mail libraries.

       http://mojo.skazat.com/support/documentation/scheduled_mailings.pl.html#configuration

Read the Fine Manual :)

This is a step you have to do for dada_bridge.pl and Mystery Girl as well. Their docs are slightly more verbose on how to do all this:

      http://mojo.skazat.com/support/documentation/dada_bounce_handler.pl.html#configuration

(under, "Change the lib path)

Finding the site-wide perl libraries shouldn't be a problem, since you're getting into the command line stuff, you'll have to also add the Dada Mail perl libraries, which for you specifically, are probably at:

    /home/meetingsandmixers/www/cgi-bin/dada/
       /home/meetingsandmixers/www/cgi-bin/dada/DADA/perllib

Hazzah!


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