Justin,

I like what you suggest, especially since Dada can be set to NOT send the posting back to the sender. In that case, if the list and sender are copied on the message, then they theoretically won't get two copies. It would be nice to have options to configure as the user wishes; different groups of people have different preferences, regardless of "netiquette".  And on that subject, thanks for not being a "stickler" for the rules. I've been using email/usenet for MANY years, and nothing annoys me more than having to scroll through 20 messages to read someone's reply. I don't know who came up with the "rules" for the internet, but top-posting is one of those things that I am 100% FOR.

-Joe

On 30 May 2006 06:56:15 -0000, Dada Mail (Justin Simoni) <dada@PROTECTED> wrote:

On May 29, 2006, at 4:47 AM, Gerard Seibert wrote:
> Justin, I am on probably way to many forums/mailing lists, but I can
> testify that one of the biggest annoyances on any list is some newbie
> replying to a post and sending it to both the list address and the
> originator(s) of the post. Real amateurism in action.
>
> A reply should be directed back to the forum and only the forum aka
> mailing list unless the originator requests otherwise.

OK, but the problem right now in a Dada Mail list, like this one, if
you hit, "reply", the message is addressed to the list. If you hit,
"reply all", the message is addressed... to the list, not the list
and the original poster. This is what seems to be broken in Dada Mail.

This new feature - doing things in a more traditional sense, should
allow you to do this:

Hit reply, and replies go to the list,
Hit reply all and replies should go to the list, and the original
poster.

I think.

Your ideas on what's right and wrong for list etiquette are a little
abrasive to me; hopefully a discussion list should be as intuitive as
possible, yet the actual medium and mechanism of this medium does
make this problematic.

Perhaps the list owner should make the rules for the lists. That's
me. :) Since this list is pretty low traffic, I don't see a really
huge reason to enforce any one style of posting, replying, etc. The
rules I'd like to follow are stated on the list's own page:

        http://mojo.skazat.com/cgi-bin/dada/mail.cgi/list/dadadev/

ta da!

I think one of neat things about email is its freeform-ness. Everyone
has their own style and I'd love to keep people expressing it. Right
now, it doesn't seem to be getting in the way of communication of
this list.

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On May 29, 2006, at 4:47 AM, Gerard Seibert wrote:

>
> "Joe Rizza" <joe@PROTECTED>
>
>>   Re: [dadadev] Discussion List Style - Request For Comments
>>   I think it would be great for REPLY to go to the sender, and
>> REPLY ALL go to the list. I've had a lot of people asking for this
>> feature on the discussion lists.
>>
>> -Joe
>>
>>
>> On 28 May 2006 23:01:30 -0000, Dada Mail (Justin Simoni)
>> <dada@PROTECTED> wrote:
>>      Heya,
>>
>>      Many people have mentioned
>>
>>              http://mojo.skazat.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1145638823
>>
>>      that the style of Dada Mail discussion lists are slightly different
>>      than other Mailing List Managers. Right now, I want to focus on one
>>      issue:
>>
>>      It seems that in other programs, messages sent to the list have the,
>>      "To:" header filled into what Dada Mail refers to as the, "List
>>      Address". For this list, it would look sort of like this:
>>
>>              To: dadadev@PROTECTED
>>              From: me@PROTECTED
>>
>>      Currently in Dada Mail, the, "To:" header is set to, well, to the
>>      person that will receive the message, if, " receiver@PROTECTED" is
>>      going to receive the message, the headers would look like this:
>>
>>              To: <mailto:receiver@PROTECTED >receiver@PROTECTED
>>              From: me@PROTECTED
>>
>>      If you check the headers of this very message, you should see this.
>>
>>      The first, traditional way has an interesting advantage, that many
>>      have pointed out - if you  reply to the message, you'll reply to the
>>      original sender. If you hit, "Reply to All", you'll reply to both
>> the
>>      original sender, and the list. This is what most people expect - I
>>      think. :)
>>
>>      This functionality is currently broken in Dada Mail discussion
>> lists;
>>      if you hit, "reply", you'll reply to the original sender. If you
>> hit,
>>      "Reply All", you'll reply to... the original sender.
>>
>>      There is an option in dada_bridge.pl, to, "Automatically have
>> replies
>>      to messages directed to the group "
>>
>>      If this option is checked, replies will go back to the list. If you
>>      hit, "Reply-All", replies will... go back to the list.
>>
>>
>>
>>      So, my question is: I was thinking of changing this list to the more
>>      traditional headers, anyone have a problem with that?
>>
>>      Any other experiences with discussion mailing lists that you'd like
>>      copied?
>>
>>      Cheers,
>>
>>      --
>>      Justin Simoni
>>
>>      .: Dada Mail "Write Once - Distribute Everywhere" Email
>> Communication
>>      Software
>>
>>      url:   http://mojo.skazat.com
>>      ph:    720.436.7701
>>      aolim: leaddadaist
>
> Justin, I am on probably way to many forums/mailing lists, but I can
> testify that one of the biggest annoyances on any list is some newbie
> replying to a post and sending it to both the list address and the
> originator(s) of the post. Real amateurism in action.
>
> A reply should be directed back to the forum and only the forum aka
> mailing list unless the originator requests otherwise.
>
>
> --
> Gerard Seibert
> gerard@PROTECTED
>
>
> A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text.
> Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
> A: Top-posting.
> Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail?
>
> http://www.river.com/users/share/etiquette/
> http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote1.html#ss1.l
>
>
>
>
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