Re: Discussion List Style - Request For Comments

 
From: "Dada Mail" <dada@PROTECTED>
Date: May 30th 2006

(sorry, the below was posted, when I was doing the upgrade - here it
is:)

From: Andreas Grau Date: May 30, 2006 1:25:58 AM MDT To: Dada Mail Developers dadadev@skazat com Subject: Re: [dadadev] Re: Discussion List Style - Request For Comments

On 30 May 2006 06:57:37 -0000 "Dada Mail (Justin Simoni)" dada@PROTECTED wrote:

On May 29, 2006, at 4:47 AM, Gerard Seibert wrote:

A reply should be directed back to the forum and only the forum aka mailing list unless the originator requests otherwise

OK, but the problem right now in a Dada Mail list, like this one, if you hit, "reply", the message is addressed to the list If you hit, "reply all", the message is addressed to the list, not the list and the original poster This is what seems to be broken in Dada Mail

Not broken here, Justin ! My Sylpheed email client has to offer: - Reply - Reply to All - Reply to Sender - Reply to Mailing List

'Reply to All' addresses the message to the list and puts the sender on CC:, which seems fine to me Do we need to take e-mail clients into account when looking at that ?

A

On May 30, 2006, at 12:57 AM, Dada Mail ((Justin Simoni)) wrote:

>

On May 29, 2006, at 4:47 AM, Gerard Seibert wrote:

Justin, I am on probably way to many forums/mailing lists, but I can testify that one of the biggest annoyances on any list is some newbie replying to a post and sending it to both the list address and the originator(s) of the post Real amateurism in action

A reply should be directed back to the forum and only the forum aka mailing list unless the originator requests otherwise

OK, but the problem right now in a Dada Mail list, like this one,
if you hit, "reply", the message is addressed to the list If you
hit, "reply all", the message is addressed to the list, not the
list and the original poster This is what seems to be broken in
Dada Mail

This new feature - doing things in a more traditional sense, should
allow you to do this:

Hit reply, and replies go to the list, Hit reply all and replies should go to the list, and the original
poster

I think

Your ideas on what's right and wrong for list etiquette are a
little abrasive to me; hopefully a discussion list should be as
intuitive as possible, yet the actual medium and mechanism of this
medium does make this problematic

Perhaps the list owner should make the rules for the lists That's
me :) Since this list is pretty low traffic, I don't see a really
huge reason to enforce any one style of posting, replying, etc The
rules I'd like to follow are stated on the list's own page:

http://mojo skazat com/cgi-bin/dada/mail cgi/list/dadadev/

ta da!

I think one of neat things about email is its freeform-ness
Everyone has their own style and I'd love to keep people expressing
it Right now, it doesn't seem to be getting in the way of
communication of this list

-- Justin Simoni

: Dada Mail "Write Once - Distribute Everywhere" Email
Communication Software

url: http://mojo skazat com ph: 720 436 7701 aolim: leaddadaist

On May 29, 2006, at 4:47 AM, Gerard Seibert wrote:

>

"Joe Rizza" joe@PROTECTED

Re: [dadadev] Discussion List Style - Request For Comments I think it would be great for REPLY to go to the sender, and
REPLY ALL go to the list I've had a lot of people asking for
this feature on the discussion lists

-Joe

On 28 May 2006 23:01:30 -0000, Dada Mail (Justin Simoni)
dada@PROTECTED wrote:
Heya,

Many people have mentioned

        http://mojo
skazat
com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB
pl?num=1145638823

that the style of Dada Mail discussion lists are slightly different
than other Mailing List Managers
 Right now, I want to focus on one
issue:

It seems that in other programs, messages sent to the list have  

the, "To:" header filled into what Dada Mail refers to as the, "List Address" For this list, it would look sort of like this:

        To: dadadev@skazat
com
        From: me@example
com

Currently in Dada Mail, the, "To:" header is set to, well, to the
person that will receive the message, if, "receiver@example
com" is
going to receive the message, the headers would look like this:

        To: <mailto:receiver@example
com>receiver@example
com
        From: me@example
com

If you check the headers of this very message, you should see this


The first, traditional way has an interesting advantage, that many
have pointed out - if you  reply to the message, you'll reply to  

the original sender If you hit, "Reply to All", you'll reply to
both the original sender, and the list This is what most people expect - I think :)

This functionality is currently broken in Dada Mail discussion  

lists; if you hit, "reply", you'll reply to the original sender If you
hit, "Reply All", you'll reply to the original sender

There is an option in dada_bridge
pl, to, "Automatically have  

replies to messages directed to the group "

If this option is checked, replies will go back to the list
 If you
hit, "Reply-All", replies will


 go back to the list




So, my question is: I was thinking of changing this list to the  

more traditional headers, anyone have a problem with that?

Any other experiences with discussion mailing lists that you'd like
copied?

Cheers,

--
Justin Simoni


: Dada Mail "Write Once - Distribute Everywhere" Email  

Communication Software

url:   http://mojo
skazat
com
ph:    720
436
7701
aolim: leaddadaist

Justin, I am on probably way to many forums/mailing lists, but I can testify that one of the biggest annoyances on any list is some newbie replying to a post and sending it to both the list address and the originator(s) of the post Real amateurism in action

A reply should be directed back to the forum and only the forum aka mailing list unless the originator requests otherwise

-- Gerard Seibert gerard@seibercom net

A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail?

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