Re: force text confirmation emails?

From: "Mary Ann Kelley maryann@PROTECTED [Dada Mail Developers]" <dadadev@PROTECTED>

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Date: August 21st 2019

Once the subscriber confirms, html emails are preferred for my purposes—it’s just the confirmation that I prefer to be text. I understand if you can’t separate them out, in which case I’ll just use a stripped down HTML version that imitates the look of the text version (which is what I am doing now).

No data to offer since I delete the abuse report emails immediately so the confirmation link doesn’t accidentally get clicked. It could just be that I notice them more because the html version puts the logo front and center in the returned email, so that’s a good question to ask. It’s just as likely that it’s just me perceiving it that way and they haven’t actually increased.

But still, I’d just as soon my logo not be front and center in a bot-submitted subscription request confirmation email. And yes, for SES that would be a problem and recaptcha would be a better solution in that case.

Bottom line is that it's probably just as well for me to strip down the HTML version of the confirmation emails and keep them as html. Documentation on what the actual correct behavior is would be helpful though.

Thanks for the reminder about github.

Mary Ann

On Aug 21, 2019, at 1:51 PM, Justin, Dada Mail justin@PROTECTED [Dada Mail Developers] <dadadev@PROTECTED> wrote:

From: justin@PROTECTED
Follow up email to report that this is not the case. I deleted it and it used the HTML confirmation template in the default theme.
I'll add an issue about this - but also a note of, "define what the actual correct behavior is", as even I'm guessing and (if I keep guessing), using the missing template from the default theme seems fairly reasonable.
It would be great if there was a per list option for whether we want to send text or html confirmation emails.
I can add a feature request about that too - but mostly it would be a big, "send text emails/send html emails" switch.
Since switching to html confirmation emails with the upgrade, more people are reporting bot-submitted confirmation emails as spam[...]With the text version they seemed to be less likely to think it was an intentional spam email.
Any data to back up this feeling with?
If the problem is "bots submitting forms", I'm not sure if the solution is, "change the type of email sent to the bot", as bots will still keep submitting forms - this is a BIG problem when using something like SES,where abuse reports/bounces count towards your rep.
Also a reminder if anyone wants to file issues/feature requests, use the issue tracker:
https://github.com/justingit/dada-mail/issues
Label it as "bug" bugs; "feature requests" for feature requests. Bugs don't get fixed, unless they're first reported!
(don't use the wiki for feature requests)
Cheers,
Justin