Re: Mail doesn't start for over 10 minutes.

From: "John Collins" <john@PROTECTED>

In-Reply-To: Re: Mail doesn't start for over 10 minutes.

Date: September 13th 2009

I already sent the weekly newsletter so I can only send myself single
samples today

Tried this first In dada/DADA/Template/templates/sending_monitor_screen tmpl THIS LINE onChange="updateRefresh();" />
CHANGED TO

So it doesn't default to the monitor being on

Tested four times The result was about the same for each: Mailing Started: 09/13/2009 14:24:49 Mailing Ended: 09/13/2009 14:24:50 Total Mailing Time: 1 second

I think, no, I'm guessing, and maybe all wrong, that setting the
monitor default to not refresh allowed the sending to get underway
before the monitor screen tried to redraw

I won't know until I try it on the whole list next week

I would, though, like to test delaying the redirect to the monitor
page by 10 or 20 seconds if that can be done That may be a better
fix I haven't figured that out yet Tips?

John

On Sep 13, 2009, at 12:30 PM, Justin J wrote:

On Sep 8, 2009, at 1:17 PM, John Collins wrote:

What I'm guessing is that my large emails, 160kb plus large user
database, plus extra fields in settings database, plus perhaps a
hosting anomaly is causing either the app or perl to hiccup when
the sending monitor attempts to reload before the email is compiled
and sending starts

I kind of concur I ran into this problem when working on the
multiple list sending stuff for 3 1 and the time it was taking to
compile a sending for say, 400 lists (don't ask!) was enormous and
you'd get a broken mailout error (sometimes), since everything
wasn't in place, before Dada Mail refreshed to the mailing monitor
screen

I don't know if changing the refresh rate will help, since that
first refresh/redirect to the mailing monitor will funk it up
(possibly), as would any visit to any list control panel screen

But, try editing this file:

dada/DADA/Template/templates/sending_monitor_screen tmpl

You'll see the Javascript that refreshes the page:
    <script type="text/javascript">
         refreshpage(, "http://dadamailproject
com/cgi-bin/dada/mail
cgi?f=sending_monitor&id=20090913153004&type= 
");

Change, "" to another number - the number you use will be the
seconds it'll take to refresh

You could also change this in the mail cgi file Find these lines:
      my $refresh_after = 10;
         $refresh_after = $li->{bulk_sleep_amount}
           if $refresh_after < $li->{bulk_sleep_amount};
And just remove:
         $refresh_after = $li->{bulk_sleep_amount}
           if $refresh_after < $li->{bulk_sleep_amount};
And change this line:
      my $refresh_after = 10;
To whatever you'd like So, if it's 60 seconds you want, do this:
      my $refresh_after = 60;
Happy Hacking,

-- Justin J

Dada Mail - Write Once: Distribute Everywhere Software url: http://dadamailproject com

Demo: http://demo dadamailproject com

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On Sep 8, 2009, at 1:17 PM, John Collins wrote:

>

After testing this start up delay over and over and trying to find
errors in the hosting logs, I have an uneducated theory that will
be easy to test

Please send me the page/area to change the sending monitor repeat
rate from 10 secs to a minute or more Also the code to change the
default setting for the sending monitor refresh rate to be set to
off

What I'm guessing is that my large emails, 160kb plus large user
database, plus extra fields in settings database, plus perhaps a
hosting anomaly is causing either the app or perl to hiccup when
the sending monitor attempts to reload before the email is compiled
and sending starts

Just a guess, but I found that if I turn the monitor off, sending
starts more quickly Also I've had issues with server errors when
I leave the monitor on when sending to the large list

Thanks,

John

BTW - on Dada Pro 3 04, mysql db

On Sep 7, 2009, at 1:05 PM, John Collins wrote:

>

This started about a month ago on my main list; it's getting worse

I send out one, sometimes two emails a week to about 32,000 The
emails are typically around 150-160k, html (the other list, a new one, is working fine, but the list is much
smaller and the emails are also much smaller and the list has no
history)

What's happening is the mail doesn't want to start sending It
tries over and over, refreshing the status screen every 10 secs
The delay getting longer and can be as much as 5 mins or more
before it starts Once it starts all is fine including the send
speed (about 6,000-7,000 per hour)

The Monitor screen says that Dada is "Restarting the Mailing " It
does this a bunch of times and then displays a message that the
mailing appears to be stopped Nevertheless, it still refreshes
every 10 secs until it eventually starts I even had a 500 server
error on one refresh and had to restart the vps

I have long suspected an issue with the monitor screen and have
wondered if it tries to redraw the screen before a process is
through and that could be tripping errors Is it possible to
change the refresh rate from 10 to 60 secs?

FWIW, this is a very old list I compared the settings table
(mysql) to a much newer list and found some extra numbered rows
in the problem list Example = MNM 45257638092320081015102825,http://www IEmixer com MNM 780409719989 20081015102825,http://www meetingsandmixers com/ sp where MON id the list short name THere's a couple dozen of these I wondered if there was some corruption in the settings

Got a whole lot of Dada errors here's the log [Mon Sep 7 13:05:48 2009] mail cgi: Reloading message at /DADA/ Mail/MailOut pm line 1636 [Mon Sep 7 13:05:50 2009] mail cgi:
couldn't delete lock file: '// dada_files/ tmp/ MNM_clickthroughdb lock' - No such file or directory at /DADA/Mail/ Send pm line 1232 [Mon Sep 7 13:05:51 2009] mail cgi: couldn't
delete lock file: '// dada_files/ tmp/MNM_clickthroughdb lock' -
No such file or directory at /DADA/Mail/Send pm line 1232 [Mon Sep
7 13:05:51 2009] mail cgi: Reloading message at /DADA/Mail/ MailOut pm line 1636 [Mon Sep 7 13:05:52 2009] mail cgi: couldn't
delete lock file: '// dada_files/ tmp/MNM_clickthroughdb lock' -
No such file or directory at /DADA/Mail/Send pm line 1232 [Mon Sep
7 13:05:59 2009] mail cgi: couldn't delete lock file:
'// dada_files/ tmp/MNM_clickthroughdb lock' - No such file or
directory at /DADA/Mail/Send pm line 1232 [Mon Sep 7 13:06:02
2009] mail cgi: Couldn't open, '// dada_files/ tmp/sendout-MNM- list-20090907113152 31992266_at_meetingsandmixers com/ batchlock txt' because: No such file or directory at /DADA/Mail/ MailOut pm line 587 [Mon Sep 7 13:06:03 2009] mail cgi: Reloading
message at /DADA/Mail/MailOut pm line 1636 [Mon Sep 7 13:06:05
2009] mail cgi: Reloading message at /DADA/Mail/MailOut pm line
1636 [Mon Sep 7 13:06:12 2009] mail cgi: couldn't delete lock
file: '// dada_files/ tmp/MNM_clickthroughdb lock' - No such file
or directory at /DADA/Mail/Send pm line 1232 [Mon Sep 7 13:06:12
2009] mail cgi: Reloading message at /DADA/Mail/MailOut pm line
1636 [Mon Sep 7 13:06:13 2009] mail cgi: couldn't delete lock
file: '// dada_files/ tmp/MNM_clickthroughdb lock' - No such file
or directory at /DADA/Mail/Send pm line 1232 [Mon Sep 7 13:06:15
2009] mail cgi: couldn't delete lock file: '// dada_files/ tmp/ MNM_clickthroughdb lock' - No such file or directory at /DADA/Mail/ Send pm line 1233 [Mon Sep 7 13:06:15 2009] mail cgi: Reloading
message at /DADA/Mail/MailOut pm line 1636 [Mon Sep 7 13:06:16
2009] mail cgi: couldn't delete lock file: '// dada_files/ tmp/ MNM_clickthroughdb lock' - No such file or directory at /DADA/Mail/ Send pm line 1232 [Mon Sep 7 13:06:18 2009] mail cgi: Reloading
message at /DADA/Mail/MailOut pm line 1636 [Mon Sep 7 13:06:20
2009] mail cgi: couldn't delete lock file: '// dada_files/ tmp/ MNM_clickthroughdb lock' - No such file or directory at /DADA/Mail/ Send pm line 1233 [Mon Sep 7 13:06:28 2009] mail cgi: Reloading
message at /DADA/Mail/MailOut pm line 1636 [Mon Sep 7 13:06:30
2009] mail cgi: Reloading message at /DADA/Mail/MailOut pm line
1636 [Mon Sep 7 13:06:33 2009] mail cgi: Reloading message at / DADA/Mail/MailOut pm line 1636 [Mon Sep 7 13:06:34 2009] mail cgi:
Reloading message at /DADA/Mail/MailOut pm line 1636 [Mon Sep 7
13:06:36 2009] mail cgi: Reloading message at /DADA/Mail/ MailOut pm line 1636 [Mon Sep 7 13:06:38 2009] mail cgi: couldn't
delete lock file: '// dada_files/ tmp/MNM_clickthroughdb lock' -
No such file or directory at /DADA/Mail/Send pm line 1232 [Mon Sep
7 13:06:38 2009] mail cgi: couldn't delete lock file:
'// dada_files/ tmp/MNM_clickthroughdb lock' - No such file or
directory at /DADA/Mail/Send pm line 1233 [Mon Sep 7 13:06:41
2009] mail cgi: couldn't delete lock file: '// dada_files/ tmp/ MNM_clickthroughdb lock' - No such file or directory at /DADA/Mail/ Send pm line 1232 [Mon Sep 7 13:06:43 2009] mail cgi: couldn't
delete lock file: '// dada_files/ tmp/MNM_clickthroughdb lock' -
No such file or directory at /DADA/Mail/Send pm line 1232 [Mon Sep
7 13:06:48 2009] mail cgi: Reloading message at /DADA/Mail/ MailOut pm line 1636 [Mon Sep 7 13:06:49 2009] mail cgi: Reloading
message at /DADA/Mail/MailOut pm line 1636 [Mon Sep 7 13:06:53
2009] mail cgi: Reloading message at /DADA/Mail/MailOut pm line
1636 [Mon Sep 7 13:06:54 2009] mail cgi: couldn't delete lock
file: '// dada_files/ tmp/MNM_clickthroughdb lock' - No such file
or directory at /DADA/Mail/Send pm line 1232 [Mon Sep 7 13:06:55
2009] mail cgi: Reloading message at /DADA/Mail/MailOut pm line
1636 [Mon Sep 7 13:06:55 2009] mail cgi: couldn't delete lock
file: '// dada_files/ tmp/MNM_clickthroughdb lock' - No such file
or directory at /DADA/Mail/Send pm line 1233 [Mon Sep 7 13:06:57
2009] mail cgi: Reloading message at /DADA/Mail/MailOut pm line
1636 [Mon Sep 7 13:06:57 2009] mail cgi: couldn't delete lock
file: '// dada_files/ tmp/MNM_clickthroughdb lock' - No such file
or directory at /DADA/Mail/Send pm line 1232 [Mon Sep 7 13:07:02
2009] mail cgi: couldn't delete lock file: '// dada_files/ tmp/ MNM_clickthroughdb lock' - No such file or directory at /DADA/Mail/ Send pm line 1232 [Mon Sep 7 13:07:08 2009] mail cgi: Reloading
message at /DADA/Mail/MailOut pm line 1636 [Mon Sep 7 13:07:10
2009] mail cgi: Reloading message at /DADA/Mail/MailOut pm line
1636 [Mon Sep 7 13:07:10 2009] mail cgi: couldn't delete lock
file: '// dada_files/ tmp/MNM_clickthroughdb lock' - No such file
or directory at /DADA/Mail/Send pm line 1233 [Mon Sep 7 13:07:14
2009] mail cgi: Reloading message at /DADA/Mail/MailOut pm line
1636 [Mon Sep 7 13:07:15 2009] mail cgi: couldn't delete lock
file: '// dada_files/ tmp/MNM_clickthroughdb lock' - No such file
or directory at /DADA/Mail/Send pm line 1232 [Mon Sep 7 13:07:16
2009] mail cgi: Reloading message at /DADA/Mail/MailOut pm line
1636 [Mon Sep 7 13:07:19 2009] mail cgi: Reloading message at / DADA/Mail/MailOut pm line 1636 [Mon Sep 7 13:07:22 2009] mail cgi:
couldn't delete lock file: '// dada_files/ tmp/ MNM_clickthroughdb lock' - No such file or directory at /DADA/Mail/ Send pm line 1233 [Mon Sep 7 13:07:23 2009] mail cgi: Problems
filling out the 'Sending Monitor' admin menu item with interesting
bits of information about the mailouts: Couldn't open,
'// dada_files/ tmp/sendout-MNM- list-20090907115433 07320013_at_meetingsandmixers com/ batchlock txt' because: No such file or directory at /DADA/Mail/ MailOut pm line 587 [Mon Sep 7 13:07:24 2009] mail cgi: Reloading
message at /DADA/Mail/MailOut pm line 1636 [Mon Sep 7 13:07:29
2009] mail cgi: Reloading message at /DADA/Mail/MailOut pm line
1636 [Mon Sep 7 13:07:30 2009] mail cgi: Reloading message at / DADA/Mail/MailOut pm line 1636 [Mon Sep 7 13:07:34 2009] mail cgi:
Reloading message at /DADA/Mail/MailOut pm line 1636 [Mon Sep 7
13:07:35 2009] mail cgi: couldn't delete lock file:
'// dada_files/ tmp/MNM_clickthroughdb lock' - No such file or
directory at /DADA/Mail/Send pm line 1233 [Mon Sep 7 13:07:36
2009] mail cgi: Reloading message at /DADA/Mail/MailOut pm line
1636 [Mon Sep 7 13:07:37 2009] mail cgi: couldn't delete lock
file: '// dada_files/ tmp/MNM_clickthroughdb lock' - No such file
or directory at /DADA/Mail/Send pm line 1232 [Mon Sep 7 13:07:38
2009] mail cgi: Reloading message at /DADA/Mail/MailOut pm line
1636 [Mon Sep 7 13:07:46 2009] mail cgi: couldn't delete lock
file: '// dada_files/ tmp/MNM_clickthroughdb lock' - No such file
or directory at /DADA/Mail/Send pm line 1232 [Mon Sep 7 13:07:48
2009] mail cgi: couldn't delete lock file: '// dada_files/ tmp/ MNM_clickthroughdb lock' - No such file or directory at /DADA/Mail/ Send pm line 1232 [Mon Sep 7 13:07:48 2009] mail cgi: couldn't
delete lock file: '// dada_files/ tmp/MNM_clickthroughdb lock' -
No such file or directory at /DADA/Mail/Send pm line 1233 [Mon Sep
7 13:07:49 2009] mail cgi: Reloading message at /DADA/Mail/ MailOut pm line 1636 [Mon Sep 7 13:07:51 2009] mail cgi: Reloading
message at /DADA/Mail/MailOut pm line 1636 [Mon Sep 7 13:07:55
2009] mail cgi: couldn't delete lock file: '// dada_files/ tmp/ MNM_clickthroughdb lock' - No such file or directory at /DADA/Mail/ Send pm line 1232 [Mon Sep 7 13:07:55 2009] mail cgi: Reloading
message at /DADA/Mail/MailOut pm line 1636 [Mon Sep 7 13:07:57
2009] mail cgi: Reloading message at /DADA/Mail/MailOut pm line
1636 [Mon Sep 7 13:07:59 2009] mail cgi: Reloading message at / DADA/Mail/MailOut pm line 1636 [Mon Sep 7 13:08:01 2009] mail cgi:
couldn't delete lock file: '// dada_files/ tmp/ MNM_clickthroughdb lock' - No such file or directory at /DADA/Mail/ Send pm line 1232 [Mon Sep 7 13:08:03 2009] mail cgi: couldn't
delete lock file: '// dada_files/ tmp/MNM_clickthroughdb lock' -
No such file or directory at /DADA/Mail/Send pm line 1232 [Mon Sep
7 13:08:09 2009] mail cgi: Reloading message at /DADA/Mail/ MailOut pm line 1636 [Mon Sep 7 13:08:11 2009] mail cgi: Reloading
message at /DADA/Mail/MailOut pm line 1636 [Mon Sep 7 13:08:14
2009] mail cgi: couldn't delete lock file: '// dada_files/ tmp/ MNM_clickthroughdb lock' - No such file or directory at /DADA/Mail/ Send pm line 1232 [Mon Sep 7 13:08:15 2009] mail cgi: Reloading
message at /DADA/Mail/MailOut pm line 1636 [Mon Sep 7 13:08:17
2009] mail cgi: Reloading message at /DADA/Mail/MailOut pm line
1636 [Mon Sep 7 13:08:20 2009] mail cgi: Reloading message at / DADA/Mail/MailOut pm line 1636 [Mon Sep 7 13:08:31 2009] mail cgi:
Reloading message at /DADA/Mail/MailOut pm line 1636 [Mon Sep 7
13:08:32 2009] mail cgi: DBI
connect ('dbname=dadamaildb;host=localhost;port=3306','dadauser', )
failed: Too many connections at /DADA/App/DBIHandle pm line 163
[Mon Sep 7 13:08:32 2009] mail cgi: can't connect to db: at /DADA/ Mail/Send pm line 1086 [Mon Sep 7 13:08:32 2009] mail cgi: DBD
driver has not implemented the AutoCommit attribute at /usr/local/ perl-5 8 8/lib/site_perl/5 8 8/i686-linux/DBI pm line 678 [Mon
Sep 7 13:08:36 2009] mail cgi: couldn't delete lock file:
'// dada_files/ tmp/MNM_clickthroughdb lock' - No such file or
directory at /DADA/Mail/Send pm line 1233 [Mon Sep 7 13:08:45
2009] mail cgi: couldn't delete lock file: '// dada_files/ tmp/ MNM_clickthroughdb lock' - No such file or directory at /DADA/Mail/ Send pm line 1233 [Mon Sep 7 13:08:51 2009] mail cgi: couldn't
delete lock file: '// dada_files/ tmp/MNM_clickthroughdb lock' -
No such file or directory at /DADA/Mail/Send pm line 1233 [Mon Sep
7 13:08:57 2009] mail cgi: couldn't delete lock file:
'// dada_files/ tmp/MNM_clickthroughdb lock' - No such file or
directory at /DADA/Mail/Send pm line 1232 [Mon Sep 7 13:09:01
2009] mail cgi: couldn't delete lock file: '// dada_files/ tmp/ MNM_clickthroughdb lock' - No such file or directory at /DADA/Mail/ Send pm line 1232 [Mon Sep 7 13:09:02 2009] mail cgi: Couldn't
open, '// dada_files/ tmp/sendout-MNM- list-20090907113152 31992266_at_meetingsandmixers com/ batchlock txt' because: No such file or directory at /DADA/Mail/ MailOut pm line 587 [Mon Sep 7 13:09:02 2009] mail cgi: DBI
connect ('dbname=dadamaildb;host=localhost;port=3306','dadauser', )
failed: Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/tmp/ mysql sock' (2) at /DADA/App/DBIHandle pm line 163 [Mon Sep 7
13:09:02 2009] mail cgi: can't connect to db: at /DADA/MailingList/ Settings/baseSQL pm line 64 [Mon Sep 7 13:09:02 2009] mail cgi:
DBI
connect ('dbname=dadamaildb;host=localhost;port=3306','dadauser', )
failed: Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/tmp/ mysql sock' (2) at /DADA/App/DBIHandle pm line 163 [Mon Sep 7
13:09:02 2009] mail cgi: Problems filling out the 'Sending
Monitor' admin menu item with interesting bits of information
about the mailouts: can't connect to db: at /DADA/MailingList/ Settings/baseSQL pm line 64 [Mon Sep 7 13:09:02 2009] mail cgi:
DBI
connect ('dbname=dadamaildb;host=localhost;port=3306','dadauser', )
failed: Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/tmp/ mysql sock' (2) at /DADA/App/DBIHandle pm line 163 [Mon Sep 7
13:09:02 2009] mail cgi: can't connect to db: at /DADA/MailingList/ Settings/baseSQL pm line 64 [Mon Sep 7 13:09:13 2009] mail cgi:
Reloading message at /DADA/Mail/MailOut pm line 1636 [Mon Sep 7
13:09:14 2009] mail cgi: Reloading message at /DADA/Mail/ MailOut pm line 1636 [Mon Sep 7 13:09:17 2009] mail cgi: Reloading
message at /DADA/Mail/MailOut pm line 1636 [Mon Sep 7 13:09:19
2009] mail cgi: Reloading message at /DADA/Mail/MailOut pm line
1636 [Mon Sep 7 13:09:20 2009] mail cgi: Reloading message at / DADA/Mail/MailOut pm line 1636 [Mon Sep 7 13:09:32 2009] mail cgi:
Reloading message at /DADA/Mail/MailOut pm line 1636 [Mon Sep 7
13:09:33 2009] mail cgi: Reloading message at /DADA/Mail/ MailOut pm line 1636 [Mon Sep 7 13:09:36 2009] mail cgi: Reloading
message at /DADA/Mail/MailOut pm line 1636 [Mon Sep 7 13:09:37
2009] mail cgi: Reloading message at /DADA/Mail/MailOut pm line
1636 [Mon Sep 7 13:09:39 2009] mail cgi: Reloading message at / DADA/Mail/MailOut pm line 1636 [Mon Sep 7 13:09:50 2009] mail cgi:
Reloading message at /DADA/Mail/MailOut pm line 1636 [Mon Sep 7
13:09:50 2009] mail cgi: Reloading message at /DADA/Mail/ MailOut pm line 1636 [Mon Sep 7 13:09:53 2009] mail cgi: Reloading
message at /DADA/Mail/MailOut pm line 1636 [Mon Sep 7 13:09:54
2009] mail cgi: Reloading message at /DADA/Mail/MailOut pm line
1636 [Mon Sep 7 13:09:56 2009] mail cgi: Reloading message at / DADA/Mail/MailOut pm line 1636

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