You know Justin, you are one hell of a good guy to put up with that shit so politely for so long Personally, I would have told that Seibert asshole to fuck off a long time ago (must be torro or virgo or something like that) Now - I have use MOJO & more recently DADA (;)) for years I have hacked the shit out of it to make it do what I want but I never had a problem that was a REAL PROBLEM so far That includes going thru server upgrades (OS, Perl, mysql, controlpanels etc at nauseatum) more often than I care to admit My time is limited, but if you need some help, I can spare an hour here and there to keep this product going Just lurking so far - but the time has come Keep up the good work and keep your humour!

Ciao, B

-----Original Message----- From: Dada Mail (Justin Simoni) [mailto:dada@skazat com] Sent: May 16, 2006 7:06 PM To: bruno@digi-land com Subject: [dadadev] Re: Apache-2 2 2 and Dada 2 10 8

I was also advised that perhaps you should contact the Perl developers directly and see what they have to say Perhaps, it is a bug of some type in Perl Out of curiosity, have you gone that route?

No I don't think it's a bug - I think it's a warning logged in the
error log, because you turned warnings, "on"

I just thought you might be interested in it since I assume I am running newer; i e ,
more up to date software that many of your other subscribers, as well as
you yourself possibly

My gripe is that you post the same error messages again and again and
ask my opinion about them My opinion may not change from each time,
and it gets tiring for me to continually have to answer the same
questions

I am not placing a rule on anybody Justin, it is just common sense

But, um, you are I posted the posting guidelines, none of them say
you have to post in any specific way that you cite, so please, if you
can, don't try to enforce a rule that doesn't exist :) That's all >

In addition, I posted something on your web forum page regarding
MySQL I will reprint it here if you would prefer to answer it in this arena instead

I replied to that thread, on the forums themselves, I believe

http://mojo skazat com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB pl?num=1147718767/1#1

-- Justin Simoni

: Dada Mail "Write Once - Distribute Everywhere" Email Communication
Software

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On May 15, 2006, at 1:20 PM, Gerard Seibert wrote:

>

"Dada Mail (Justin Simoni)" dada@PROTECTED

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In the future, please do not top post It is a real annoyance, and a sign of a newbie Furthermore, HTML is usually shunned in
newsgroups Plain ASCII text is the way to go

Please don't place rules on users that don't exist - everyone has different styles, and none of them really rub me the wrong way

As far as the warnings go, like anything, if anyone wants to give a hand, I'd really appreciate it - Dada Mail's a large program and there's many things that I would like to have done with it, and one person that is currently doing all the work I know we all have strengths and I could really use the help If no one helps, I guess everyone's going to have to work with my temperament

Specifically, some of these errors, like this one:

[Fri May 12 04:10:25 2006] mail cgi: Name "DADA::MailingList::Subscribers::dbi_obj" used only once:
possible typo at /usr/local/www/apache22/cgi-bin/dada/mail cgi line 168, line 1

Are weird - great, it's may be a typo - but it's not

Some of those other warnings cropped up when the archive editor was folded into the main Dada Mail program What worked for a smaller standalone script isn't working as well with the rest of the mail cgi program Is it causing the program to crash? Malfunction? Is it a security concern? No The worst it's currently doing is making the error log chatty and I can live with that at the moment If anyone wants to look at it, like I said, I'd really appreciate the help, but I'd personally really like to focus on other issues of the program so currently, it's a low priority for me

-- Justin Simoni

I am not placing a rule on anybody Justin, it is just common sense I subscribe to over twenty mailing lists and can testify that on many of them, top-posters are routinely 'flamed' or just ignored It it really hard to follow a thread that is answered by more than one
individual if they all start posting anywhere they want Top posting causes the
whole process to go back in time making comprehending the who thread a
rather unsavory chore

Anyway, enough of that

The error that you listed above is rather unique I know I have not
had any success in tracking it down One of my cohorts claims that your program reads in the entire config file in one gulp, hence every error always lists line 1 He recommended correcting that, although he did not give me any specific instructions on how to do it

I was also advised that perhaps you should contact the Perl developers directly and see what they have to say Perhaps, it is a bug of some type in Perl Out of curiosity, have you gone that route?

For the record, the only reason I posted that list of error
messages was because I had updated my system, and previously had never seen an
error about a variable not staying shared previously in any DADA error log, httpd-error log or anywhere else in regards to DADA I just thought
you might be interested in it since I assume I am running newer; i e ,
more up to date software that many of your other subscribers, as well as
you yourself possibly

In addition, I posted something on your web forum page regarding
MySQL I will reprint it here if you would prefer to answer it in this arena instead

// Reprinted from DADA Forum//

Justin, I am going to be setting up DADA for a customer of mine, and I have a few quick questions

This setup will be using a MySQL backend I will be creating the
tables using phpMyAdmin I believe

1) Other than where you have specifically specified it, does it make any difference if the values are 'null' or 'not null'?

2) For the collation, I usually set the value at: utf8_unicode_ci but I could use virtually anything else, such as latin1_general_ci ascii_general_ci or anything else that might seem appropriate Does it make any difference to DADA Mail what it is set to?

3) You have the following entry: id/G/GD/GDR/HTML-FromText-1 005 tar gz in the /dada/extras/documentation/html_version/DadaMail pm html file What is it referring to?

-- Gerard Seibert gerard@seibercom net

And God said, "Let there be light "But then the program crashed
because he was trying to access the 'light' property of a NULL universe
pointer

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