Re: The Return of Multiple List Sending

 
From: "Justin John justin@PROTECTED [Dada Mail Developers]" <dadadev@PROTECTED>
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Date: September 2nd 2022

From: kohenkatz@PROTECTED

This feature has quite a lot of history: you had it in 2.x, removed it in 3.0, put it back in 3.1 alpha versions, but then (I think) didn't actually release it until 4.x.

Ha! Yeah - and I think it was implemented in a plugin, maybe?

The only thing I found was a brief statement about how in 4.x "preventing sending duplicate messages if an address is in multiple lists will work better than ever."

I seem to recall you had a lot of trouble getting that to work properly, but I can't find the emails and I don't remember the details.

It’s not complicated, but there’s a problem with performance. I’m just not going to try to solve that problem this time around! Although funnily, the code that allows you to do this has been in the app laying dormant all this time!

https://github.com/justingit/dada-mail/blob/main/dada/DADA/MailingList/Subscribers.pm#L1924-L1942

The implementation this time around will actually be a very small change - < 100 lines added, which is a big reason it’s attractive to add it.

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On Sep 1, 2022, at 5:52 PM, Moshe Katz kohenkatz@PROTECTED [Dada Mail Developers] dadadev@PROTECTED wrote:

From: kohenkatz@PROTECTED

This feature has quite a lot of history: you had it in 2.x, removed it in 3.0, put it back in 3.1 alpha versions, but then (I think) didn't actually release it until 4.x.

I've looked through all my emails, and I can't find the discussion about removing it (neither from 3.0 nor 9.x) or what issues it might have had. The only thing I found was a brief statement about how in 4.x "preventing sending duplicate messages if an address is in multiple lists will work better than ever." I seem to recall you had a lot of trouble getting that to work properly, but I can't find the emails and I don't remember the details.

Moshe

On Thu, Sep 1, 2022, 7:27 PM Justin John justin@PROTECTED [Dada Mail Developers] dadadev@PROTECTED wrote:

From: justin@PROTECTED

Howdy everyone, I’m working on bringing multiple list sending back, which was removed in v9 sometime in the 1800’s. You can see vestiges of what this feature was like in the (old!) docs:

https://dadamailproject.com/support/documentation-8_4_0/features-multiple_list_sending.pod.html

Work is on this branch:

https://github.com/justingit/dada-mail/tree/features-multiple_list_sending

Differences will be quite stark from how this used to work. A draft message will be sent to any other lists by literally copying the draft to whatever other list you want to send out - and will then be sent out just like any other draft message. This will make the code changes pretty quick and simple, while also allowing each mailing list to function like itself. I can’t remember for the life of me how this used to work, and why it was removed. I look forward to perhaps re-discovering what it is that was such a problem (sigh!)

This will also mean though, that if a subscriber is subscriber to> 1 list, and you want to send to those lists, they’ll get a duplicate of the message.

There won’t be any global config variables that will need to be set up before this feature will be enabled.

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