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From: John Collins ...@meetingsandmixers.com>
Subject: [dadadev] dadadev Re: dadadev Re: Dada Mail 3.0.1 Includes error logs
In-Reply-To: [dadadev] Re: dadadev Re: Dada Mail 3.0.1 Includes error logs
Date: December 2nd 2008


Yes, now I'm getting the same errors with sendmail, too. I have made
no changes to the setup since sending on Sunday. THe 500 error
happens after I hit the send button; I get the error and not the
progress screen. Same for sending one test or the list msg. Same
error if I go to the admin menu on the left and click on monitor my
mailing. I did restart the vps a couple of times, in case I had a
server issue.
Perhaps something got corrupted. I dunno.

Have been trying to go back to 2.10.16. I don't have time to play
with it, I have a blast to send. Not having much luck with that
either. It can't connect to mysql.


At 2:15 PM -0500 12/2/08, Justin J wrote:
>
>
>>Sending even a test msg using smtp sending results in the 500 server error
>
>
>Works for me - anyone else?
>
>
>I do see there's about a million lines with something like this:
>>
>>[Tue Dec 2 11:18:36 2008] log_viewer.cgi: The file,
>>'//.dada_files/.tmp/sendout-MNM-list-20081116144758.91630066_at_meetingsandmixers.com.lock/first_access.txt'does
>>not exist to poll. at ..//DADA/Mail/MailOut.pm line 1336
>
>
>That's suspicious. You sure you have Dada Mail installed correctly?
>There's seems to be a configuration error, somewhere. All these
>errors don't really point to SMTP sending, per say - you would
>probably get the same error with sendmail - but you're not?
>
>
>--
>Justin J.
>
>
>Dada Mail - Write Once: Distribute Everywhere Software
>url: http://dadamailproject.com
>
>
>Demo:
>http://demo.dadamailproject.com
>
>
>Seen Dada Mail 3?
>http://dadamailproject.com/features/3_0/
>
>
>On Dec 2, 2008, at 12:09 PM, John Collins wrote:
>
>>
>>Sending even a test msg using smtp sending results in the 500 server error
>>
>>Program Error (Server Error 500)
>>
>>More information about this error may be available in the server
>>error log and/or program error log.
>>
>>can't open pause: Not a directory at /DADA/Mail/MailOut.pm line 608
>>
>>
>>LOG VIEWER
>>Last 100 lines in the error log viewer....................
>>
>>
>>
>>[Tue Dec 2 11:18:36 2008] log_viewer.cgi: The file,
>>'//.dada_files/.tmp/sendout-MNM-list-20081116144758.91630066_at_meetingsandmixers.com.lock/first_access.txt'does
>>not exist to poll. at ..//DADA/Mail/MailOut.pm line 1336
>>[Tue Dec 2 11:18:36 2008] log_viewer.cgi: Raw Message that should
>>be saved at:
>>//.dada_files/.tmp/sendout-MNM-list-20081116144758.91630066_at_meetingsandmixers.com.lock/raw_message.txtisn't
>>there. at ..//DADA/Mail/MailOut.pm line 1436.
>>[Tue Dec 2 11:18:36 2008] log_viewer.cgi: The file,
>>'//.dada_files/.tmp/sendout-MNM-list-20081116144515.02586166_at_meetingsandmixers.com.lock/last_access.txt'does
>>not exist to poll. at ..//DADA/Mail/MailOut.pm line 1336
>>[Tue Dec 2 11:18:36 2008] log_viewer.cgi: Integrity warning:
>>//.dada_files/.tmp/sendout-MNM-list-20081116144758.91630066_at_meetingsandmixers.com.lock/num_sending_to.txt
>>(num_sending_to) is not present! at ..//DADA/Mail/MailOut.pm line
>>751
>>[Tue Dec 2 11:18:36 2008] log_viewer.cgi: The file,
>>'//.dada_files/.tmp/sendout-MNM-list-20081116144758.91630066_at_meetingsandmixers.com.lock/num_sending_to.txt'does
>>not exist to poll. at ..//DADA/Mail/MailOut.pm line 1336
>>[Tue Dec 2 11:18:36 2008] log_viewer.cgi: The file,
>>'//.dada_files/.tmp/sendout-MNM-list-20081116144758.91630066_at_meetingsandmixers.com.lock/counter.txt'does
>>not exist to poll. at ..//DADA/Mail/MailOut.pm line 1336
>>[Tue Dec 2 11:18:36 2008] log_viewer.cgi: The file,
>>'//.dada_files/.tmp/sendout-MNM-list-20081116144758.91630066_at_meetingsandmixers.com.lock/last_access.txt'does
>>not exist to poll. at ..//DADA/Mail/MailOut.pm line 1336
>>[Tue Dec 2 11:18:36 2008] log_viewer.cgi: The file,
>>'//.dada_files/.tmp/sendout-MNM-list-20081116144758.91630066_at_meetingsandmixers.com.lock/first_access.txt'does
>>not exist to poll. at ..//DADA/Mail/MailOut.pm line 1336
>>[Tue Dec 2 11:18:36 2008] log_viewer.cgi: Raw Message that should
>>be saved at:
>>//.dada_files/.tmp/sendout-MNM-list-20081116144758.91630066_at_meetingsandmixers.com.lock/raw_message.txtisn't
>>there. at ..//DADA/Mail/MailOut.pm line 1436.
>>[Tue Dec 2 11:18:36 2008] log_viewer.cgi: The file,
>>'//.dada_files/.tmp/sendout-MNM-list-20081116144758.91630066_at_meetingsandmixers.com.lock/last_access.txt'does
>>not exist to poll. at ..//DADA/Mail/MailOut.pm line 1336
>>[Tue Dec 2 11:18:36 2008] log_viewer.cgi: Integrity warning:
>>//.dada_files/.tmp/sendout-MNM-list-20081116145600.33166436_at_meetingsandmixers.com.lock/num_sending_to.txt
>>(num_sending_to) is not present! at ..//DADA/Mail/MailOut.pm line
>>751
>>[Tue Dec 2 11:18:36 2008] log_viewer.cgi: The file,
>>'//.dada_files/.tmp/sendout-MNM-list-20081116145600.33166436_at_meetingsandmixers.com.lock/num_sending_to.txt'does
>>not exist to poll. at ..//DADA/Mail/MailOut.pm line 1336
>>[Tue Dec 2 11:18:36 2008] log_viewer.cgi: The file,
>>'//.dada_files/.tmp/sendout-MNM-list-20081116145600.33166436_at_meetingsandmixers.com.lock/counter.txt'does
>>not exist to poll. at ..//DADA/Mail/MailOut.pm line 1336
>>[Tue Dec 2 11:18:36 2008] log_viewer.cgi: The file,
>>'//.dada_files/.tmp/sendout-MNM-list-20081116145600.33166436_at_meetingsandmixers.com.lock/last_access.txt'does
>>not exist to poll. at ..//DADA/Mail/MailOut.pm line 1336
>>[Tue Dec 2 11:18:36 2008] log_viewer.cgi: The file,
>>'//.dada_files/.tmp/sendout-MNM-list-20081116145600.33166436_at_meetingsandmixers.com.lock/first_access.txt'does
>>not exist to poll. at ..//DADA/Mail/MailOut.pm line 1336
>>[Tue Dec 2 11:18:36 2008] log_viewer.cgi: Raw Message that should
>>be saved at:
>>//.dada_files/.tmp/sendout-MNM-list-20081116145600.33166436_at_meetingsandmixers.com.lock/raw_message.txtisn't
>>there. at ..//DADA/Mail/MailOut.pm line 1436.
>>[Tue Dec 2 11:18:37 2008] log_viewer.cgi: The file,
>>'//.dada_files/.tmp/sendout-MNM-list-20081116144758.91630066_at_meetingsandmixers.com.lock/last_access.txt'does
>>not exist to poll. at ..//DADA/Mail/MailOut.pm line 1336
>>[Tue Dec 2 11:18:37 2008] log_viewer.cgi: Integrity warning:
>>//.dada_files/.tmp/sendout-MNM-list-20081116145600.33166436_at_meetingsandmixers.com.lock/num_sending_to.txt
>>(num_sending_to) is not present! at ..//DADA/Mail/MailOut.pm line
>>751
>>[Tue Dec 2 11:18:37 2008] log_viewer.cgi: The file,
>>'//.dada_files/.tmp/sendout-MNM-list-20081116145600.33166436_at_meetingsandmixers.com.lock/num_sending_to.txt'does
>>not exist to poll. at ..//DADA/Mail/MailOut.pm line 1336
>>[Tue Dec 2 11:18:37 2008] log_viewer.cgi: The file,
>>'//.dada_files/.tmp/sendout-MNM-list-20081116145600.33166436_at_meetingsandmixers.com.lock/counter.txt'does
>>not exist to poll. at ..//DADA/Mail/MailOut.pm line 1336
>>[Tue Dec 2 11:18:37 2008] log_viewer.cgi: The file,
>>'//.dada_files/.tmp/sendout-MNM-list-20081116145600.33166436_at_meetingsandmixers.com.lock/last_access.txt'does
>>not exist to poll. at ..//DADA/Mail/MailOut.pm line 1336
>>[Tue Dec 2 11:18:37 2008] log_viewer.cgi: The file,
>>'//.dada_files/.tmp/sendout-MNM-list-20081116145600.33166436_at_meetingsandmixers.com.lock/first_access.txt'does
>>not exist to poll. at ..//DADA/Mail/MailOut.pm line 1336
>>[Tue Dec 2 11:18:37 2008] log_viewer.cgi: Raw Message that should
>>be saved at:
>>//.dada_files/.tmp/sendout-MNM-list-20081116145600.33166436_at_meetingsandmixers.com.lock/raw_message.txtisn't
>>there. at ..//DADA/Mail/MailOut.pm line 1436.
>>[Tue Dec 2 11:18:37 2008] log_viewer.cgi: The file,
>>'//.dada_files/.tmp/sendout-MNM-list-20081116145600.33166436_at_meetingsandmixers.com.lock/last_access.txt'does
>>not exist to poll. at ..//DADA/Mail/MailOut.pm line 1336
>>[Tue Dec 2 11:18:37 2008] log_viewer.cgi: Integrity warning:
>>//.dada_files/.tmp/sendout-MNM-list-20081117090112.73093177_at_meetingsandmixers.com.lock/num_sending_to.txt
>>(num_sending_to) is not present! at ..//DADA/Mail/MailOut.pm line
>>751
>>[Tue Dec 2 11:18:37 2008] log_viewer.cgi: The file,
>>'//.dada_files/.tmp/sendout-MNM-list-20081117090112.73093177_at_meetingsandmixers.com.lock/num_sending_to.txt'does
>>not exist to poll. at ..//DADA/Mail/MailOut.pm line 1336
>>[Tue Dec 2 11:18:37 2008] log_viewer.cgi: The file,
>>'//.dada_files/.tmp/sendout-MNM-list-20081117090112.73093177_at_meetingsandmixers.com.lock/counter.txt'does
>>not exist to poll. at ..//DADA/Mail/MailOut.pm line 1336
>>[Tue Dec 2 11:18:37 2008] log_viewer.cgi: The file,
>>'//.dada_files/.tmp/sendout-MNM-list-20081117090112.73093177_at_meetingsandmixers.com.lock/last_access.txt'does
>>not exist to poll. at ..//DADA/Mail/MailOut.pm line 1336
>>[Tue Dec 2 11:18:37 2008] log_viewer.cgi: The file,
>>'//.dada_files/.tmp/sendout-MNM-list-20081117090112.73093177_at_meetingsandmixers.com.lock/first_access.txt'does
>>not exist to poll. at ..//DADA/Mail/MailOut.pm line 1336
>>[Tue Dec 2 11:18:37 2008] log_viewer.cgi: Raw Message that should
>>be saved at:
>>//.dada_files/.tmp/sendout-MNM-list-20081117090112.73093177_at_meetingsandmixers.com.lock/raw_message.txtisn't
>>there. at ..//DADA/Mail/MailOut.pm line 1436.
>>[Tue Dec 2 11:18:37 2008] log_viewer.cgi: The file,
>>'//.dada_files/.tmp/sendout-MNM-list-20081116145600.33166436_at_meetingsandmixers.com.lock/last_access.txt'does
>>not exist to poll. at ..//DADA/Mail/MailOut.pm line 1336
>>[Tue Dec 2 11:18:37 2008] log_viewer.cgi: Integrity warning:
>>//.dada_files/.tmp/sendout-MNM-list-20081117090112.73093177_at_meetingsandmixers.com.lock/num_sending_to.txt
>>(num_sending_to) is not present! at ..//DADA/Mail/MailOut.pm line
>>751
>>[Tue Dec 2 11:18:37 2008] log_viewer.cgi: The file,
>>'//.dada_files/.tmp/sendout-MNM-list-20081117090112.73093177_at_meetingsandmixers.com.lock/num_sending_to.txt'does
>>not exist to poll. at ..//DADA/Mail/MailOut.pm line 1336
>>[Tue Dec 2 11:18:37 2008] log_viewer.cgi: The file,
>>'//.dada_files/.tmp/sendout-MNM-list-20081117090112.73093177_at_meetingsandmixers.com.lock/counter.txt'does
>>not exist to poll. at ..//DADA/Mail/MailOut.pm line 1336
>>[Tue Dec 2 11:18:37 2008] log_viewer.cgi: The file,
>>'//.dada_files/.tmp/sendout-MNM-list-20081117090112.73093177_at_meetingsandmixers.com.lock/last_access.txt'does
>>not exist to poll. at ..//DADA/Mail/MailOut.pm line 1336
>>[Tue Dec 2 11:18:37 2008] log_viewer.cgi: The file,
>>'//.dada_files/.tmp/sendout-MNM-list-20081117090112.73093177_at_meetingsandmixers.com.lock/first_access.txt'does
>>not exist to poll. at ..//DADA/Mail/MailOut.pm line 1336
>>[Tue Dec 2 11:18:37 2008] log_viewer.cgi: Raw Message that should
>>be saved at:
>>//.dada_files/.tmp/sendout-MNM-list-20081117090112.73093177_at_meetingsandmixers.com.lock/raw_message.txtisn't
>>there. at ..//DADA/Mail/MailOut.pm line 1436.
>>[Tue Dec 2 11:18:37 2008] log_viewer.cgi: The file,
>>'//.dada_files/.tmp/sendout-MNM-list-20081117090112.73093177_at_meetingsandmixers.com.lock/last_access.txt'does
>>not exist to poll. at ..//DADA/Mail/MailOut.pm line 1336
>>[Tue Dec 2 11:18:37 2008] log_viewer.cgi: Integrity warning:
>>//.dada_files/.tmp/sendout-MNM-list-20081120082525.68917948_at_meetingsandmixers.com.lock/num_sending_to.txt
>>(num_sending_to) is not present! at ..//DADA/Mail/MailOut.pm line
>>751
>>[Tue Dec 2 11:18:37 2008] log_viewer.cgi: The file,
>>'//.dada_files/.tmp/sendout-MNM-list-20081120082525.68917948_at_meetingsandmixers.com.lock/num_sending_to.txt'does
>>not exist to poll. at ..//DADA/Mail/MailOut.pm line 1336
>>[Tue Dec 2 11:18:37 2008] log_viewer.cgi: The file,
>>'//.dada_files/.tmp/sendout-MNM-list-20081120082525.68917948_at_meetingsandmixers.com.lock/counter.txt'does
>>not exist to poll. at ..//DADA/Mail/MailOut.pm line 1336
>>[Tue Dec 2 11:18:37 2008] log_viewer.cgi: The file,
>>'//.dada_files/.tmp/sendout-MNM-list-20081120082525.68917948_at_meetingsandmixers.com.lock/last_access.txt'does
>>not exist to poll. at ..//DADA/Mail/MailOut.pm line 1336
>>[Tue Dec 2 11:18:37 2008] log_viewer.cgi: The file,
>>'//.dada_files/.tmp/sendout-MNM-list-20081120082525.68917948_at_meetingsandmixers.com.lock/first_access.txt'does
>>not exist to poll. at ..//DADA/Mail/MailOut.pm line 1336
>>[Tue Dec 2 11:18:37 2008] log_viewer.cgi: Raw Message that should
>>be saved at:
>>//.dada_files/.tmp/sendout-MNM-list-20081120082525.68917948_at_meetingsandmixers.com.lock/raw_message.txtisn't
>>there. at ..//DADA/Mail/MailOut.pm line 1436.
>>[Tue Dec 2 11:18:37 2008] log_viewer.cgi: The file,
>>'//.dada_files/.tmp/sendout-MNM-list-20081117090112.73093177_at_meetingsandmixers.com.lock/last_access.txt'does
>>not exist to poll. at ..//DADA/Mail/MailOut.pm line 1336
>>[Tue Dec 2 11:18:37 2008] log_viewer.cgi: Integrity warning:
>>//.dada_files/.tmp/sendout-MNM-list-20081120082525.68917948_at_meetingsandmixers.com.lock/num_sending_to.txt
>>(num_sending_to) is not present! at ..//DADA/Mail/MailOut.pm line
>>751
>>[Tue Dec 2 11:18:37 2008] log_viewer.cgi: The file,
>>'//.dada_files/.tmp/sendout-MNM-list-20081120082525.68917948_at_meetingsandmixers.com.lock/num_sending_to.txt'does
>>not exist to poll. at ..//DADA/Mail/MailOut.pm line 1336
>>[Tue Dec 2 11:18:37 2008] log_viewer.cgi: The file,
>>'//.dada_files/.tmp/sendout-MNM-list-20081120082525.68917948_at_meetingsandmixers.com.lock/counter.txt'does
>>not exist to poll. at ..//DADA/Mail/MailOut.pm line 1336
>>[Tue Dec 2 11:18:37 2008] log_viewer.cgi: The file,
>>'//.dada_files/.tmp/sendout-MNM-list-20081120082525.68917948_at_meetingsandmixers.com.lock/last_access.txt'does
>>not exist to poll. at ..//DADA/Mail/MailOut.pm line 1336
>>[Tue Dec 2 11:18:37 2008] log_viewer.cgi: The file,
>>'//.dada_files/.tmp/sendout-MNM-list-20081120082525.68917948_at_meetingsandmixers.com.lock/first_access.txt'does
>>not exist to poll. at ..//DADA/Mail/MailOut.pm line 1336
>>[Tue Dec 2 11:18:37 2008] log_viewer.cgi: Raw Message that should
>>be saved at:
>>//.dada_files/.tmp/sendout-MNM-list-20081120082525.68917948_at_meetingsandmixers.com.lock/raw_message.txtisn't
>>there. at ..//DADA/Mail/MailOut.pm line 1436.
>>[Tue Dec 2 11:18:37 2008] log_viewer.cgi: The file,
>>'//.dada_files/.tmp/sendout-MNM-list-20081120082525.68917948_at_meetingsandmixers.com.lock/last_access.txt'does
>>not exist to poll. at ..//DADA/Mail/MailOut.pm line 1336
>>[Tue Dec 2 11:18:37 2008] log_viewer.cgi: The file,
>>'//.dada_files/.tmp/sendout-MNM-list-20081120082525.68917948_at_meetingsandmixers.com.lock/last_access.txt'does
>>not exist to poll. at ..//DADA/Mail/MailOut.pm line 1336
>>[Tue Dec 2 11:18:38 2008] log_viewer.cgi: Problems filling out the
>>'Sending Monitor' admin menu item with interesting bits of
>>information about the mailouts: can't open pause: Not a directory
>>at ..//DADA/Mail/MailOut.pm line 608
>>[Tue Dec 2 11:18:38 2008] log_viewer.cgi: Problems filling out the
>>'Sending Monitor' admin menu item with interesting bits of
>>information about the mailouts: can't open pause: Not a directory
>>at ..//DADA/Mail/MailOut.pm line 608
>>[Tue Dec 2 11:18:38 2008] log_viewer.cgi: Integrity warning:
>>//.dada_files/.tmp/sendout-MNM-list-20081111161930.17370035_at_meetingsandmixers.com.lock/num_sending_to.txt
>>(num_sending_to) is not present! at ..//DADA/Mail/MailOut.pm line
>>751
>>[Tue Dec 2 11:18:38 2008] log_viewer.cgi: The file,
>>'//.dada_files/.tmp/sendout-MNM-list-20081111161930.17370035_at_meetingsandmixers.com.lock/num_sending_to.txt'does
>>not exist to poll. at ..//DADA/Mail/MailOut.pm line 1336
>>[Tue Dec 2 11:18:38 2008] log_viewer.cgi: The file,
>>'//.dada_files/.tmp/sendout-MNM-list-20081111161930.17370035_at_meetingsandmixers.com.lock/counter.txt'does
>>not exist to poll. at ..//DADA/Mail/MailOut.pm line 1336
>>[Tue Dec 2 11:18:38 2008] log_viewer.cgi: The file,
>>'//.dada_files/.tmp/sendout-MNM-list-20081111161930.17370035_at_meetingsandmixers.com.lock/last_access.txt'does
>>not exist to poll. at ..//DADA/Mail/MailOut.pm line 1336
>>[Tue Dec 2 11:18:38 2008] log_viewer.cgi: The file,
>>'//.dada_files/.tmp/sendout-MNM-list-20081111161930.17370035_at_meetingsandmixers.com.lock/first_access.txt'does
>>not exist to poll. at ..//DADA/Mail/MailOut.pm line 1336
>>[Tue Dec 2 11:18:38 2008] log_viewer.cgi: Raw Message that should
>>be saved at:
>>//.dada_files/.tmp/sendout-MNM-list-20081111161930.17370035_at_meetingsandmixers.com.lock/raw_message.txtisn't
>>there. at ..//DADA/Mail/MailOut.pm line 1436.
>>[Tue Dec 2 11:18:38 2008] log_viewer.cgi: The file,
>>'//.dada_files/.tmp/sendout-MNM-list-20081111161930.17370035_at_meetingsandmixers.com.lock/last_access.txt'does
>>not exist to poll. at ..//DADA/Mail/MailOut.pm line 1336
>>[Tue Dec 2 11:18:38 2008] log_viewer.cgi: The file,
>>'//.dada_files/.tmp/sendout-MNM-list-20081111161930.17370035_at_meetingsandmixers.com.lock/last_access.txt'does
>>not exist to poll. at ..//DADA/Mail/MailOut.pm line 1336
>>[Tue Dec 2 11:18:38 2008] log_viewer.cgi: The file,
>>'//.dada_files/.tmp/sendout-MNM-list-20081111161930.17370035_at_meetingsandmixers.com.lock/last_access.txt'does
>>not exist to poll. at ..//DADA/Mail/MailOut.pm line 1336
>>[Tue Dec 2 11:18:38 2008] log_viewer.cgi: Integrity warning:
>>//.dada_files/.tmp/sendout-MNM-list-20081116144515.02586166_at_meetingsandmixers.com.lock/num_sending_to.txt
>>(num_sending_to) is not present! at ..//DADA/Mail/MailOut.pm line
>>751
>>[Tue Dec 2 11:18:38 2008] log_viewer.cgi: The file,
>>'//.dada_files/.tmp/sendout-MNM-list-20081116144515.02586166_at_meetingsandmixers.com.lock/num_sending_to.txt'does
>>not exist to poll. at ..//DADA/Mail/MailOut.pm line 1336
>>[Tue Dec 2 11:18:38 2008] log_viewer.cgi: The file,
>>'//.dada_files/.tmp/sendout-MNM-list-20081116144515.02586166_at_meetingsandmixers.com.lock/counter.txt'does
>>not exist to poll. at ..//DADA/Mail/MailOut.pm line 1336
>>[Tue Dec 2 11:18:38 2008] log_viewer.cgi: The file,
>>'//.dada_files/.tmp/sendout-MNM-list-20081116144515.02586166_at_meetingsandmixers.com.lock/last_access.txt'does
>>not exist to poll. at ..//DADA/Mail/MailOut.pm line 1336
>>[Tue Dec 2 11:18:38 2008] log_viewer.cgi: The file,
>>'//.dada_files/.tmp/sendout-MNM-list-20081116144515.02586166_at_meetingsandmixers.com.lock/first_access.txt'does
>>not exist to poll. at ..//DADA/Mail/MailOut.pm line 1336
>>[Tue Dec 2 11:18:38 2008] log_viewer.cgi: Raw Message that should
>>be saved at:
>>//.dada_files/.tmp/sendout-MNM-list-20081116144515.02586166_at_meetingsandmixers.com.lock/raw_message.txtisn't
>>there. at ..//DADA/Mail/MailOut.pm line 1436.
>>[Tue Dec 2 11:18:39 2008] log_viewer.cgi: The file,
>>'//.dada_files/.tmp/sendout-MNM-list-20081116144515.02586166_at_meetingsandmixers.com.lock/last_access.txt'does
>>not exist to poll. at ..//DADA/Mail/MailOut.pm line 1336
>>[Tue Dec 2 11:18:39 2008] log_viewer.cgi: Integrity warning:
>>//.dada_files/.tmp/sendout-MNM-list-20081116144758.91630066_at_meetingsandmixers.com.lock/num_sending_to.txt
>>(num_sending_to) is not present! at ..//DADA/Mail/MailOut.pm line
>>751
>>[Tue Dec 2 11:18:39 2008] log_viewer.cgi: The file,
>>'//.dada_files/.tmp/sendout-MNM-list-20081116144758.91630066_at_meetingsandmixers.com.lock/num_sending_to.txt'does
>>not exist to poll. at ..//DADA/Mail/MailOut.pm line 1336
>>[Tue Dec 2 11:18:39 2008] log_viewer.cgi: The file,
>>'//.dada_files/.tmp/sendout-MNM-list-20081116144758.91630066_at_meetingsandmixers.com.lock/counter.txt'does
>>not exist to poll. at ..//DADA/Mail/MailOut.pm line 1336
>>[Tue Dec 2 11:18:39 2008] log_viewer.cgi: The file,
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>>not exist to poll. at ..//DADA/Mail/MailOut.pm line 1336
>>[Tue Dec 2 11:18:39 2008] log_viewer.cgi: The file,
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>>[Tue Dec 2 11:18:39 2008] log_viewer.cgi: Raw Message that should
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>>there. at ..//DADA/Mail/MailOut.pm line 1436.
>>[Tue Dec 2 11:18:39 2008] log_viewer.cgi: The file,
>>'//.dada_files/.tmp/sendout-MNM-list-20081116144758.91630066_at_meetingsandmixers.com.lock/last_access.txt'does
>>not exist to poll. at ..//DADA/Mail/MailOut.pm line 1336
>>[Tue Dec 2 11:18:39 2008] log_viewer.cgi: Integrity warning:
>>//.dada_files/.tmp/sendout-MNM-list-20081116145600.33166436_at_meetingsandmixers.com.lock/num_sending_to.txt
>>(num_sending_to) is not present! at ..//DADA/Mail/MailOut.pm line
>>751
>>[Tue Dec 2 11:18:39 2008] log_viewer.cgi: The file,
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>>[Tue Dec 2 11:18:40 2008] log_viewer.cgi: The file,
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>>not exist to poll. at ..//DADA/Mail/MailOut.pm line 1336
>>[Tue Dec 2 11:18:40 2008] log_viewer.cgi: Problems filling out the
>>'Sending Monitor' admin menu item with interesting bits of
>>information about the mailouts: can't open pause: Not a directory
>>at ..//DADA/Mail/MailOut.pm line 608
>>
>>
>>
>>At 5:51 PM -0500 11/30/08, Justin J wrote:
>>>John,
>>>>It is S-L-O-W!
>>>>
>>>>It's sending at the rate of under 1800 per hour. With 18,000 to
>>>>send it will take over ten hours. This is not workable. I
>>>>cannot send a second msg in the same day.
>>>
>>>
>>>>Reference: Dada 3.01pro. External config. MySQL backend. I
>>>>have tried it with the batch sending set to 180 with a one second
>>>>pause or to not have it set to send in batches or with any
>>>>pauses. No difference.
>>>>
>>>>Wha' happened?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>First and foremost, I don't make Dada Mail to go as fast as
>>>possible. I don't do that because the bottle neck is never Dada
>>>Mail, it's the actually mailing part - where you send the message
>>>off to your mail server. You're 1800 messages an hour is about 2
>>>messages/second. That's probably on ball with how fast the mail
>>>server can take messages. I'm not at all worried about that.
>>>
>>>
>>>You can test my theory by, instead of sending a message to your
>>>mail server, using the sendmail command, instead send it to, just
>>>a file that gets appended. Change the config variable
>>>$MASS_MAIL_SETTINGS from what it probably is set to:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>$MASS_MAIL_SETTINGS = "|$MAILPROG -t";
>>>
>>>
>>>to something like this:
>>>
>>>
>>> $MASS_MAIL_SETTINGS = ">>/dev/null";
>>>
>>>
>>>Send a message out (nothing will actually get sent out) and tell
>>>me how fast messages are going out. If it's more like 18,000
>>>messages/hour, instead of 1800 messages an hour - guess what? It's
>>>not Dada Mail, it's the sendmail command taking 2 seconds a
>>>messages - and that's it.
>>>
>>>
>>>Make sure to change back this variable, when you really want to
>>>send out a message.
>>>
>>>
>>>If it's sendmail taking so long - there's not much I can do. You
>>>can try this:
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.dadamailproject.com/support/boards/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=515
>>>
>>>
>>>which means switching to SMTP sending. That's all I got for you.
>>>
>>>
>>>I know, John, you like to report sending speed problems, but a lot
>>>of your reports are without much evidence - error logs and the
>>>like and you then don't like trying out a lot of the changes I
>>>make. This report, for example, is basically the same report you
>>>gave a few months ago. My answer is pretty similar, as well. If
>>>you're asking me to jump, I'm going to tell you, "I'm jumping" and
>>>not, "how high" - there's nothing I can do, internally, in Dada
>>>Mail to speed up sending.
>>>
>>>
>>>I don't want it to be a, "He said, she said" thing with Westhost,
>>>where they say they haven't changed anything on their side, so it
>>>must be on Dada Mail's side - it gets us nowhere. Are there major,
>>>huge, ginormous changes in Dada Mail 3, when compared to 2? Yes. A
>>>lot. Can I go back to how 2 worked? I can't, unless you want to
>>>get ride of all the subscriber fields stuff and all the mailing
>>>monitor stuff in 3. If those aren't important to you - use 2.x.
>>>Especially with this version - which is just an incremental *bug
>>>fix* version of Dada Mail to be as compatible with 3.0 as
>>>possible, I don't have much leeway to make huge changes to the
>>>architecture within Dada Mail.
>>>
>>>
>>>I guess a question, *I* would love to ask is, "What is it, that
>>>you all - everyone, would like me to do?", when it comes to the
>>>issue of mail sending? No one has any ideas, really. I ask for
>>>comments on what major feature you all - everyone, wants and no
>>>one said, "I want mail sending super fast!". It was even on the
>>>list of things, in the form of what's called, "Envelope Sending",
>>>but not many people said, "hey, that's a great idea"
>>>
>>>
>>>A lot of my concentration, in Dada Mail, is not with sending super
>>>fast - a lot of my concentration has been around getting the
>>>people who have limits of sending at only 500 messages an hour
>>>realistically working, thus the whole sending monitor stuff -
>>>which is a very complex bit of code - almost too complex. But it's
>>>not so complex as to add 2 *seconds* of overhead per message.
>>>That's just silly,
>>>
>>>
>>>--
>>>Justin J.
>>>
>>>
>>>Dada Mail - Write Once: Distribute Everywhere Software
>>>url: http://dadamailproject.com
>>>
>>>
>>>Demo:
>>>http://demo.dadamailproject.com
>>>
>>>
>>>Seen Dada Mail 3?
>>>http://dadamailproject.com/features/3_0/
>>>
>>>
>>>On Nov 30, 2008, at 2:06 PM, John Collins wrote:
>>>>
>>>>FYI-
>>>>
>>>>It is S-L-O-W!
>>>>
>>>>It's sending at the rate of under 1800 per hour. With 18,000 to
>>>>send it will take over ten hours. This is not workable. I
>>>>cannot send a second msg in the same day.
>>>>
>>>>I just checked my archives and back in Aprll, I sent 19, 600 in
>>>>58 mins total (vers 2.x, which was typical at that time). Sending
>>>>rates have been decreasing since then, with the largest drop on
>>>>this edition.
>>>>
>>>>I called Westhost support and was told that they have not made
>>>>any changes to the mail servers. Further, they said that while
>>>>watching the output, that there were few messages in the queue;
>>>>that Dada was not keeping up with sendmail.
>>>>
>>>>Reference: Dada 3.01pro. External config. MySQL backend. I
>>>>have tried it with the batch sending set to 180 with a one second
>>>>pause or to not have it set to send in batches or with any
>>>>pauses. No difference.
>>>>
>>>>Wha' happened?
>>>>>Dada Mail 3.0.1 is released after a good long bug-release cycle,
>>>>>where we squashed about 23 (reported) bugs. There's probably a
>>>>>bit more, but that's how it goes.

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